Dan F. writes:
Hi Bob,
You wrote: “The men all got it from sharing needles or from getting ass fucked by a guy.”
And then when I mentioned Darren James, who was filmed having vaginal sex when infected, you agreed that your statement was incorrect:
“NO! Darren James is the only male porn star who got HIV from a woman. There has not yet been one, one, one, one, one other case yet”
At least, given your acknowledgement, you should change your statement from “all” to the “vast majority.” How can you be so certain that every single male porn star who got HIV didn’t get get it from vaginal sex? Except for the one guy whose moment of infection happens to be documented on video, you really believe no one else has ever been infected this way?
That this has only happened once in history, to Darren James of all people during the scene that is widely available? You are perpetuating a myth! Yes, it is much more likely that a man will give it to a women as you state, but vaginal fluids can enter the urethra. There are plenty of anonymous stories on Avert of men who claim to have been infected through vaginal sex.
Darren James got it from fucking a Brazilian porn star in the ass while down in Brazil. From insertive anal sex. His moment of infection is not a documented instance of vaginal sex on video. The apparently documented infection is a case of anal sex, not vaginal sex.
There have been only a few other HIV infections in the porn industry. John Holmes acquired HIV, but he was also a heavy drug user and he made some gay porn films at the end of his career. Another man got it, found out by a test and faked a test result to keep on working. Whereupon he infected at least one woman. Another man was recently found to be infected. He was a bit coy about how he might have gotten it, but inquiries to people who knew him said that in recent days he had been engaging in gay male prostitution on the side for extra money. So it appears that he acquired HIV homosexually.
29 American women have acquired HIV in the porn industry. Many of them kept on working for a while while they were infected because they did not know they were infected. They had quite a bit of sex with quite a few porn stars. Not one of these males ever got HIV from a woman in the porn industry. My understanding is that not one of these HIV infected female porn stars has given the disease to any of their male partners after they left the industry.
I had an HIV infected Black woman come on here and say that the disease only goes male to female. She has been having sex with her husband for several years after infection, and he is not yet infected. In addition, she said that none of the females she knows who are infected with HIV have ever given it to their husbands or boyfriends.
Insertive heterosexual anal sex is quite a bit more risky than insertive vaginal sex. In a study done in the 1980′s with discordant couples over a 4-5 year period, only 20% of the males had acquired HIV from their wives. After 4-500 instances of vaginal sex, only 20% of the men were infected. So if you have sex with an HIV positive woman 500 times, you have an 80% chance of not getting infected! Those are pretty long odds.
Around 1990, we heard stories out of New York Public Health investigators about how hard it was for this disease to go woman to man. They had had quite a few guys who claimed that they got it from a woman, but the more the investigators questioned them and the people who knew them, almost 100% of these guys eventually broke down and admitted that they got it through other means, either needles or typically through gay sex.
It has been shown that there are high levels of HIV in Black women. The men who gave it to them often insist that they got it from a woman. However, upon investigation, a large number of these male cases were actually acquired by gay sex on the down low. It has now been proven that the vast majority of Black women being infected in the US are getting it from Black men on the down low.
You are much more likely to get it from a woman if you are not circumcised. Uncircumcised men are much more at risk.
The type of HIV found in the US is very hard to transmit woman to man. That is because it mutated into a strictly blood-borne virus for some reason, possibly due to ease of transmission through needles and the high amount of homosexual sex we have in the West. In other parts of the world, the virus is not only blood borne -titers are also high in other fluids.
However, the subtype in the US has very low titers in vaginal fluids. They are so low that one wonders if they can even transmit infection – that is how low they are. And if by chance you do get infected vaginally by a woman, your dose is so low that you often only get a “mild” case of HIV, if such a thing is possible. For instance, Magic Johnson got HIV from a woman 23 years ago, and his symptoms have been so mild that he has not yet even started HIV drugs yet.
One can definitely get HIV from a woman in the US via heterosexual sex. Cases have obviously been documented. However, history shows that it is quite hard for a male to get the disease this way. But via my loose, intuitive and Gestalt approach to the data, it does seem that females are transmitting HIV a bit easier to males these days in the US than they did 20-30 years ago. I have no idea why heterosexual sex is a bit more risky for males in the US than it used to be, but I can tell you that the risk is quite low, and with a condom it is effectively zero.
