[Governance Poll] – Should Two Users Be Banned?

**Please read all of the below to make an informed decision before voting.**

This governance poll is to decide whether to ban JohnFrontino and SacredHam00 from the subreddit or not.

**(1)** The proposal was written by ethereumgasbot:

>Basically, news broke out ~~yesterday~~ last week that [John is likely sacred ham or at least knew each other](https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/pnrrn0/its_confirmed_ujohnfrontino_is_usacredham00/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf). Now generally, using multiple accounts is immoral, if not in the gray area of legality, but johnfrontino and sacredham00 are both low effort donut farmers, who spam hundreds if not thousands of comments a day, which doesn’t contribute to positive discussion, and actively steals donuts from members who do their best to post OC, and post well thought out replies.
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>In fact, there’s sufficient evidence that they’re the same person, or follow the same modus operandi, which raises the question if they’re part of a larger upvote group, which is clearly against sub and site wide rules(as based on data found on the blockhain, John transferred over 100,000k donuts to his potential alt, and both of them owned and swapped for the same Shitcoins on the BSC, at around the same time)
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>Now as I said before, my main concern here is the fact that John likes to spam extremely low effort comments, and by doing so, he’s actively stealing donuts from other [r/ethtrader](https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/) users, many who do their best to contribute quality comments and posts, vs the hundreds of daily sub one liner comments John likes to leave. I plan to propose a few other polls to try to disincentivize excessive spam, but I see a pretty clear cut case here, as johnfrontino has oddly not been active for over 17 hours, which is a surprising amount of time given he’s always spamming the sub, deleted his public denials, and is nowhere to be seen. I’m definitely open to hear what John has to say about the scenario, and would be willing to give him a few hours/days to submit a response to the allegations brought up against him.
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>Edit: As a final addition to the proposal, I’d like to bring this comment into the community’s view, [https://m.imgur.com/YqCLi7o](https://m.imgur.com/YqCLi7o), a user acknowledged he’s in a WhatsApp group with sacredham, and other users, and John acknowledged he knew sacred, and they went as far as suggesting that they AWARD AND TIP EACH OTHER, and since the Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree, I can easily see johnfrontino, and sacredham participating in vote manipulation. Plus,the mods believe the same: [update from the mods suggesting John and sacred along with a few others likely participate in vote manipulation](https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/pq49sf/update_on_donut_farming/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)

**(2)** JohnFrontino wrote the following:

>Regarding the accusations. There are many things wrong here. The people who now attack me were previously accused and are seeking to divert attention, just as they investigate my account, they can also investigate each one of them.
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>User Ham and I are friends, we are in the same country but different cities. He told me about an NFT game called Cryptozoon, that’s why we have YAG and ZOON as currency. The transfer I made to him was not a tip, it was a transfer to invest in the NFT, the transaction can be reviewed and you can also review the transaction of the purchase of the NFT. He knew more about the game than I did so he took care of it.
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>Some say that the best defense is an attack. These people are attacking and trying to evade attention for them. Check them out too.
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>We are not the same account, this is my only account and if in any way the MODS can check the IP they can realize that. I have not been responding to the posts in question because I have been speaking directly with the MODS, giving them the information directly.
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>They say that my account is from Turkey, it’s false. They say that I made +900 comments in one day, it’s also false. You can check it in my profile, that is not true. There are many things that they say are simply wrong.
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>They made a poll to ban me. They focused attention on my account but who investigates their accounts? Much attention has been focused on this situation, I see screenshots that they publish making it seem like I’m talking to myself. Now you know that it was simply interacting with a friend.I have even made many friends here, many people know me because I have been very active here.
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>I don’t feel comfortable attacking anyone. But many of the accounts that attacked me are only a few days old, it could be that they are using alternative accounts.

**(3)** SacredHam00 wrote the following:

>I’m no longer active on reddit, but I been told about all the stuff that happened, I think you are basically putting a “guilty until proven innocent” situation lol, whatever you think with subjective base can’t be used to claim or confirm anything, solid proof must be shown to back up your clarifications about two accounts owned by the same person, which you cant confirm(or deny)

**(4)** The mods evaluated this situation last week. After some internal discussion, we decided there was very likely upvote manipulation happening, but decided to not ban these two users. We think the best way to address the situation is via changing the distribution algorithm going forward and issuing a blanket one-time warning-before-ban to all users that have been engaging in vote manipulation. More in this thread:

[https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/pq49sf/update_on_donut_farming/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ethtrader/comments/pq49sf/update_on_donut_farming/)

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