I like eye liners, but I can not call my self a great eye liner freak. I do have all sorts of eye liners, liquid liners, gel liners & khols.
It takes time until you learn how to use it.
But it is deep and intense black.
I recommend you to get the product on back of your hand, and work out.
It stays up to 8 hours after 8 hours on my oils lids it starts to to fade a bit, but not much.
It is extremely waterproof & smudge proof.
I could be able to clean the liner with the oil based eye makeup cleaner.
