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Is America Lost to Damnation?

By Eowyn @DrEowyn

Is America lost to damnation?

GOD GAVE THEM OVER TO A REPROBATE MIND

By Carl F. Worden

November 17, 2012

Defined by the Dictionary, a reprobate is first, a morally unprincipled person, and second, one who is abandoned to eternal damnation. That is a pretty heavy word when compared to a mere, “sinner“.

The evidence is overwhelming that the United states has finally reached the tipping point where there are more ungodly people in our midst than godly. This was clearly demonstrated by the recent presidential election, in which the people of this nation were offered two distinctly different paths: Return to the principles that made this nation more prosperous and free than any other nation that ever existed in recorded history; or try something “new”. As of November 6, 2012, this nation has taken the path of the latter.

Just about everything President Obama holds dear is an affront to God himself. This is a president who prefers to lie when the truth would sound better. He is a sociopath of the first degree. His support of marriage for same-sex couples, his profligate misuse and waste of our national assets, his obvious hostility toward Israel and his complete disregard for the rule of law point to a man who rejects the commandments of God. This man is neither Christian or Muslim: By definition, Barack Obama is a Human Secularist.

What is a Human Secularism? First, Secularism is the belief that religion should have no place in civil affairs. A Human Secularist believes that humans can solve every problem all by themselves and without the encumbrances of a Ten Commandments or the influence of a Jesus Christ, because humans are basically good and can make up their own rules of conduct to suit everyone much better than any non-existent god can. Their common argument is that the failure of man to follow God’s Laws somehow invalidates God’s Laws. If that were true, man would have repealed all the laws against murder because people still commit murder and therefore the laws against murder are invalid, right? Deep thinkers, indeed.

From the depths of Human Secularism was born the concepts of Nazism, Fascism, Communism and Socialism, among others, but in order to herald those failed ideas to the fore, religion must be eliminated from the civil realm in favor of unfettered human problem-solving. You will see this errant belief manifest itself when a politician claims to be Christian, but refuses to apply his/her alleged belief to how s/he votes on a subject like elective abortion or same-sex marriage. Whereas God’s Law calls the killing of an unborn baby intentional murder, the Secularist enjoys complete freedom from such arbitrary and unfair characterizations, preferring to consider the, “situation”, the mother finds herself in, therefore justifying the murder as necessary, understandable and acceptable. Whereas God’s Law forbids the act of Adultery, the Secularist considers circumstances like, maybe her husband is insensitive, doesn’t earn enough money or is lousy in bed. Whereas God’s Law strictly forbids stealing, the Secularist considers the thief’s needs and whether or not the victim can afford the theft. It’s a question of fairness, don’t you see?

Human Secularism has been slowly creeping into American society for a very long time, and only now are decent people beginning to grasp the full impact of what this nation has become. It started with removing prayer from public schools, and that act has now metastasized to banning Bibles, expelling students who mention the name of Jesus Christ, and removing crosses and other religious symbols erected on public property.

Under Human Secularism, just about every human act can be justified, which is why I never trust people who subscribe to it, either in business or on a social level. Some “Christian” churches now accept practicing samesexuals in their midst and even in their pulpits, though the Bible they claim to revere clearly forbids samesexuality as an abomination to God. Honestly, how much more openly hostile toward God can we possibly be than to publicly support happy Pride parades, happy marriage and the mass-genocide of unborn babies? Most people today don’t know that everything Hitler did, including the mass-murder of Jews and other undesirables, was legal under German law. The Germans legalized the murder of Jews, just as we have legalized the murder of unborn babies — but there is no difference in the eyes of God.

Most Secularists stopped reading this article after the second paragraph, but I don’t bemoan their loss because I know they are incapable of understanding or accepting anything I’m about to reveal here for the simple reason that they have been blinded by God himself. They have literally been given over to a reprobate mind.

If you find it hard to accept the foregoing, it is only because you don’t know God and his ways of doing things. You don’t know God because you never carefully read his best-selling book. You’ve been letting others tell you what to believe, and unfortunately, too many Christian pastors simply won’t tell you what I’m about to reveal, and that is the fact that some people are so evil in God’s eyes that he won’t let them discover their error, lest they might repent and God would have to keep his promise to forgive them! Does that surprise you? Here’s Jesus himself speaking to you from the King James Bible in Matthew, chapter 13, verses 13-15:

Matthew 13:13-15 (KJV)

13 Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand.
14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
15 For this people’s heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.

When President Obama was elected to a second term with baggage that included a massive debt he doubled, an economy in the toilet, massive unemployment he made worse, the easily preventable murder of an American ambassador and three other brave Americans in Libya, an alienated military, high gasoline prices, mandatory socialist health care, an attempt to put daylight (read enmity) between the U.S. and Israel, and a secret comment revealed by an open mic to Russian President Medvedev”, I was caught totally by surprise because I couldn’t conceive of it. In times past, we’d have elected anyone but Obama. In fact, if the most evil minds ever to exist got together to craft a plan to utterly destroy the United States of America, they’d adopt a plan that exactly mirrors what Obama did in his first term, and yet he was elected to a second term over a very truthful and decent man with solid business credentials!

I had to find the answer, so I prayed, and the words came to me, “God gave them over to a reprobate mind”. I remembered reading those words in the Bible, so I looked them up and found a prophesy that until now I didn’t realize applied directly to us as the nation we’ve become. It is found in Romans, Chapter 1, verses 18-32, and it reads thus:

Romans 1:18-32 (KJV)
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and four-footed beasts, and creeping things.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonor their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

(If anyone reading this does not understand part of it, let me know and I will explain it to you.)

If this is true (and frankly, no other explanation will fit) then true Christians living in the United States are in somewhat imminent danger. If God truly has given these evil ones over to a reprobate mind, then they are incapable of even considering the Laws of God or any form of godly righteousness — and they can justify anything. They have no conscience and no capacity for guilt. They will show pure hatred and contempt toward anyone who disagrees with them, and if in a position of power, these evil ones will commit deeds that so many others over the years have claimed could never happen here.

Right now, there is a secession effort for a number of states to leave the Union, and while I am in agreement with this in principle, it will prove to be a waste of time. There are only two possible outcomes I can foresee, and that is all-out civil war, or to get the hell out of here before it is too late. The Bible teaches us not to directly resist evil, but to avoid it. The Bible also includes a prophesy in Revelation, Chapter 18, verses 1-4. This prophesy refers to a latter-day Babylon, and the description exactly matches the present-day United States over any other possible contender. Here it is:

Revelation 18:1-4 (KJV)
1 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory.
2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.
3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

I have written this many times before, but it again bears repeating, the Bible clearly reveals in story after story, that when an individual sins, God deals with the person individually; but when a nation sins, God deals with that nation, NATIONALLY. In other words, if you are one of the remaining true Christians, God is explicitly warning you to get out before God brings judgment against this nation, and I believe both these prophesies apply to the present-day Babylon USA. If you truly believe in God and his son Jesus Christ, and if you are baptized and you understand God still expects you to obey his commands, then I hope I have opened your eyes, because the time is short.

~Posted by Grouchy Fogie

Note from Eowyn:

Grouchy Fogie received the above essay by Carl F. Worden  as an email. I tried to find the original source site but found only other blogs re-publishing the essay. However, I can confirm that Worden is a contributor to such sites as The Price of Liberty. I also found a Carl F. Worden listed as a Democrat running for Oregon’s Jackson County commissioner in 2006. He described his occupation as “retired financial services self-employed.”


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