Ricks1977 wrote:
Over +30% of our taxes go on some form of welfare (that’s why so many illegals come in), I have no problems with Some Socialism I am a Moderate, BUT Free IOU’s/Handout no thanks!! I takes away the inbuilt human ability to work and be self-sufficient (Its turns some of us in to parasites)!
Illegals are not eligible for any welfare programs that I am aware of. However, they are on some programs. Of course they use emergency health services, and they can get WIC for their kids, but the kid is a citizen.
It is not true that 30% of our taxes go to welfare. That’s just not the case. It doesn’t inhibit people’s desire to work. I know a lot of people on these programs, and most of them work. In fact, I know people who are on disability. You would think someone could kick back on disability, but most people on disability work. I knew some women on welfare, and they worked. We have some Section 8 people in this complex, and they all work. Most people on Medicaid work. So there’s not that many people surviving getting free money. Anyway, you won’t get any free money.
If you’re not working, there’s no welfare program to survive on. If you are a woman with a kid, you can get welfare, but it is only ~$300/month. Try living off that. Sure you can get Section 8, but Sec 8 is just reduced rents. The people on it still have to come up with ~50% of the normal rent price. Medicaid is nice but it doesn’t buy food or pay your bills.
Yes you can get food stamps to help you eat. I have no problem giving folks some food to eat. The only support you can get if you don’t work is disability and welfare. We showed how welfare doesn’t pay the bills, but disability doesn’t either. You simply cannot live off it. So most people on disability work as much as they can under the table. If you report your income, they take 1/2 of it, and if it goes on a long time, they may throw you off disability.
Bottom line is there just are not that many people kicking back and refusing to work and living off handouts. You can’t even really do it. I know a few who do it, but they are on disability and it’s arguable whether they can really work or not.
Since you can’t kick back on handouts, nobody’s doing it. If nobody’s doing it, nobody’s being turned into a parasite.
The fact that even folks on disability work shows you that these programs do not sap your will to work. In fact you can’t survive, so you have to work. If you can’t survive, you can’t kick back. Also most everyone I know on these programs is miserable, chronically depressed and often suicidal. They are not having fun and it’s all because they don’t have any money. They don’t seem like parasites living high off the hog to me.
Europe has long had extensive welfare programs that you could even survive off. The rate of parasitism is low, and there are not mass cases of the will to work being sapped. They have one of the most productive workforces on Earth. In the USSR, studies showed that “chronic parasites” – the folks that conservatives love to rant about being the “lazy kick back get stuff without working” types – were only 6% of the population. So it is only a very small % of the population that is inclined to parasitism anyway.