The Pope: how the Church will change, Dialogue between Francis and La Repubblica's founder, Eugenio Scalfari: (La Repubblica is the Italian newspaper)
And here I am. The Pope comes in and shakes my hand, and we sit down. The Pope smiles and says: "Some of my colleagues who know you told me that you will try to convert me."
It's a joke, I tell him. My friends think it is you want to convert me.
He smiles again and replies: "Proselytism is solemn nonsense, it makes no sense. We need to get to know each other, listen to each other and improve our knowledge of the world around us. Sometimes after a meeting I want to arrange another one because new ideas are born and I discover new needs. This is important: to get to know people, listen, expand the circle of ideas. The world is crisscrossed by roads that come closer together and move apart, but the important thing is that they lead towards the Good."
Your Holiness, is there is a single vision of the Good? And who decides what it is?
"Each of us has a vision of good and of evil. We have to encourage people to move towards what they think is Good."
Your Holiness, you wrote that in your letter to me. The conscience is autonomous, you said, and everyone must obey his conscience. I think that's one of the most courageous steps taken by a Pope.
"And I repeat it here. Everyone has his own idea of good and evil and must choose to follow the good and fight evil as he conceives them. That would be enough to make the world a better place."
Is the Church doing that?
"Yes, that is the purpose of our mission: to identify the material and immaterial needs of the people and try to meet them as we can. Do you know what agape is?"
Yes, I know.
"It is love of others, as our Lord preached. It is not proselytizing, it is love. Love for one's neighbor, that leavening that serves the common good."
Love your neighbor as yourself.
"Exactly so."
Jesus in his preaching said that agape, love for others, is the only way to love God. Correct me if I'm wrong.
"You're not wrong. The Son of God became incarnate in the souls of men to instill the feeling of brotherhood. All are brothers and all children of God. Abba, as he called the Father. I will show you the way, he said. Follow me and you will find the Father and you will all be his children and he will take delight in you. Agape, the love of each one of us for the other, from the closest to the furthest, is in fact the only way that Jesus has given us to find the way of salvation and of the Beatitudes."
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So much of this is wrong. The danger is that the Pope speaks for the 1.2 billion Catholics in the world, and he also speaks the world's language and they will adopt the Pope's version of Christianity because it is Christ-less. The Pope is fixated on the world, and not Jesus.
Where the Pope said, "The Son of God became incarnate in the souls of men to instill the feeling of brotherhood" this is, we know, NOT the reason Jesus came. He came to seek and save the lost. (Luke 19:10).
Jesus came not to deliver a 'feeling' but, "For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him." (John 3:17)
Jesus came to live the perfectly sinless life so that He could shed His righteous blood on behalf of us sinners, die, and be raised by the power of God, conquering death. Jesus came to bring eternal life to sinners, not to allow us to enjoy brotherly feelings. We can do that on our own. What we cannot do on our own is escape God's judgment for our sins.
It was not men like Pope Benedict who was hellfire and brimstone who are most dangerous, but the flattering ones who speak the world's language, like Pope Francis. Francis and his soft words are the danger. Lost people will say, "See? I knew it all along! My good is good and your good is good, and we're all good." Francis denies the absolute authority of the One Good, which is what Jesus taught. (Mark 10:18). Daniel 11:12 shows us that the antichrist will use this technique of smooth words lulling the lost into a sense of spiritual fulfillment,
"By smooth words he will turn to godlessness those who act wickedly toward the covenant, but the people who know their God will display strength and take action."
I do not think Pope Francis is the antichrist, though he may be a good candidate for the False Prophet. The point is not to identify a man but to show the danger of the technique. The False Prophet and the Antichrist will use the flattering and smooth words technique to evil perfection, and we see it employed here today.
It is incredible just within one year how this one man has changed the policies and dogma of the Catholic Church so drastically. Everything the RCC has stood for, for thousands of years, are undone by just a few tweets and media interviews. This is because they are not the words of Jesus. Jesus said the world will pass away but His words will never pass away (Matthew 24:35). The ease with which Francis is changing the already corrupt RCC Gospel into ecumenical Christ-less Gospel is a pointed indicator that Christ was never in the Roman Catholic Church to begin with. The Lord's word is immovable. That Francis can change the perspective of the RCC and its adherents so easily is just another indicator of the nearness of Jesus's coming. The Pope's manipulation of the long-held false RCC doctrines to me is a good example of this verse:
"until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to mature manhood, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ, so that we may no longer be children, tossed to and fro by the waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by human cunning, by craftiness in deceitful schemes." [emphasis mine] Ephesians 4:13-14
Pray for Francis to come to know the true God of Israel, the Ancient of Days who is on His throne, awaiting the moment He will tell His Son go go get His bride. Soon after that moment, it will be too late for those cloaked in the dark, smooth words of a false prophet named Pope Francis.
