NOTE TO COMMENTERS 1:
I am getting tired of saying this over and over, but most of the material below is made up of rumors and my own opinions and theories. None of that is represented as fact. Furthermore, I am not using rumors as reliable sources as has been alleged. I never said they were reliable sources. How reliable is a rumor? That’s for you to determine, but in general a rumor is not considered to be a reliable source, and they are not treated as such below.
Also when I say I am 100% sure of something, that means that I am 100% sure of it in my own mind. All of us are 100% sure of all sorts of things we cannot prove. That’s the nature of the human condition. We simply assume many things are facts until proven otherwise. Now many of these things that I was completely certain of were later proven to be wrong. Such is the case with many other things people become certain of in their own mind. Once again, when I say I am sure or certain or 100% certain, it means only that I am sure in my own mind. I am not stating that any of these things are facts. They are simply my convictions. Any of all of these firmly held beliefs of mine about this case could possibly will later prove to be false.
The only thing that is represented as fact are statements sourced from LE or the media. If you have issues with rumors, theories, opinions. etc., just quit reading right now and save yourself the heartache.
NOTE TO COMMENTERS 2:
I thought I made this one thing perfectly clear as Richard Nixon used to say:
I have no sources whatsoever among the families of the girls.
I have no sources whatsoever in LE, local or otherwise.
There ya go.
What I do have is sources close to the families. These people generally live in Delphi and the surrounding region. So that makes my rumors even more hearsay. I’m not even talking to the families. I am talking to people who talk to the families!
Of course I have no LE sources. I thought I made that clear. Never have. Yes, I have talked to some of them, but of course they didn’t tell me a thing. A couple of times they told me that a certain person was a POI or that a certain person had been cleared with an airtight alibi. I suppose they don’t mind giving out that information. But other than that, they don’t tell me jack. It’s hard enough to even get them to call you back. I think if I asked them if my name was Robert Lindsay, they would say, “I am sorry, but I cannot comment on matters relating to an ongoing investigation.” That’s how bad it is.
So what do I have? Once again, I have sources who are close to LE. They get their information from LE, then they talk to me. So once again this is even more hearsay, as I am not even talking to LE but to the people who are talking to LE.
I really wish people would quit claiming I have LE or family sources. I just don’t. If you think I have these sources, just quit reading my stuff right now and go away. You will not be missed!
NOTE TO COMMENTERS 3: The lies never end. The latest is “Lindsay takes other people’s theories and claims they are his own.” Of course I don’t. This website is nothing but a compendium of rumors from all over the Net regarding this crime. I go through the rumors and try to rank them on a scale of weak to strong. I compare them against other rumors to see which one is better. All sorts of theories have been flying around since day one. I report those too.
The theories are really just more rumors. I’d say the vast majority of the rumor theories reported here were thought up by other people. I find most of my theories on other sites about this crime. That’s how it works, you know. You get theories about the crime from others. Yes, you use your own theories and you use other people’s theories. I really do not have time to down through the list of theories and say where I got them from. I have come up with a few of my own, but even with those, I guess someone else thought of them first. Also a lot of the theories here are also the result of constant brainstorming I do with my fellow sleuths.
This will be done in a Q and A format.
Profile is of the Unsub who murdered of Abigail Williams and Liberty German of 2-13-17 and 2-14-17.
Q: Are the Evansdale crimes and the Delphi Murders connected?
A: I do not believe so. Two separate perps, but there are some similarities. Both were done by sociopathic men aged 50-60. Girls were removed to a vehicle in both cases. In both cases, girls were taken to a structure where they were kept for a period of at least 12 hours, raped, tortured and killed. In both cases, girls were returned and dumped to an area near water. In both cases, bodies were covered with leaves. Both killers were divorced men with at least two children. Both men blend in very well in the community and few if any suspect them. The other similarities have been gone over.
Q: Was the killer from Delphi or the surrounding area? Was he from Indiana?
A: No. No.
Q: Was the killer from another state?
A: Yes.
Q: Did the killer commute to commit the crime and then commute back home?
A: Yes.
Q: If the killer does not reside in the area, how do they know the area of the crime so well.
A: The killer is a former resident who lived in the area for many years and now lives in another state. However, he grew up in and around the town.
Q: Does the killer know Ron Logan, the Mears, their neighbors and the area of the bridge and creek?
A: He knows the people, properties and neighbors like the back of his hand from growing up in the area.
Q: Does he have a criminal record?
A: Yes, long record of mostly minor crimes with some jail stints.
Q: Has he been to prison?
A: At least once, for unknown period of time, on a relatively minor charge.
Q: In what state did he acquire his criminal record, jail and prison stints?
A: Indiana.
Q: Is he employed?
A: Probably not, may collect some sort of a government check just as Disability.
Q: What was his former occupation?
A: Much of it is unknown, but one position was in industrial agriculture.
Q: What is his opinion of the police?
A: Very low, thinks they have it in for him due to long minor record.
Q: Is he an outdoorsman such as a fisherman, hunter, hiker, naturalist, etc.?
A: Absolutely, loves the outdoors.
Q: Does he engage in the pursuit of land and water game such as fish and game animals?
A: Absolutely, avid outdoorsman.
Q: What is the fanny pack?
A: Outdoorsman’s pack. Either a deer kit with scissors, knives, etc. for cutting up game or a fisherman’s pack with fishing line, knives, etc.
Q: What is the significance of the pack to the crime?
A: Knives, scissors, fishing line, etc. possibly used in the crime. Outdoors knives, either hunting or fishing, were surely used.
Q: What was the purpose of the knives?
A: Sadly, to cut up the girls, which sadly I believe was done.
Q: Can you elaborate?
A: Not sure, but reports of mutilation of the girls probably involved the use of the knives.
Q: What do we hear about the “down the hill” audio?
A: The next thing you hear at some point later is the girls screaming.
Q: Where does that take place?
A: No doubt at the bottom of the hill.
Q: What happened down there?
A: He got them down the bottom of the hill where a vehicle was waiting. At that point, I believe he struck them in the head or face with the gun. A bit of that and they were stunned enough to where he and a probable accomplice tied and gagged them and then put them in the vehicle.
Q: Where in the vehicle?
A: Probably the trunk.
Q: How many vehicles were used in the crime?
A: Two.
Q: Where were they located?
A: One at the north end, which is what Bridge Guy used to approach the bridge from the north side and a second vehicle at the bottom of the hill on the south side.
Q: With two vehicles, there must have been at least two men, right?
A: I do not see how it could have been done otherwise.
Q: Description of car on north side of bridge used by Bridge Guy to approach bridge from north side?
A: Late model white Dodge Dart with paper plates.
Q: Determined how?
A: Female witness.
Q: Confidence level is car description.
A: Very high at the moment.
Q: Why?
A: Statements of individual(s).
Q: How new was the car?
A: Personally, I feel it was a brand new vehicle.
Q: Who were the two men?
A: I have an idea of who the man on the bridge is, but I know nothing about any accomplice.
Q: How do we know the handgun was used to strike the girls and knock them half out?
A: The FBI was swabbing the gun barrels of residents who lived in the area.
Q: Why?
A: Looking for the girls’ DNA on the barrels. Conclusion: Gun was used to hit the girls.
Q: Is the killer left or right-handed?
A: The man on the bridge is absolutely left-handed. That is certain.
Q: How do we know?
A: He has the gun strapped to his chest via a holster on the right side pointing upwards. Such a setup would only be used by a left-handed man.
Q: How do we know he had a handgun?
A: You can see it outlined in the Bridge Guy photo.
Q: How old is Bridge Guy?
A: 50-60 years old.
Q: Does he walk with a limp?
A: I think so.
Q: Why?
A: Looks like an arthritic or injured knee.
Q: Does he have mobility issues?
A: For a man his age, no. He is very active.
Q: How tall is Bridge Guy?
A: 5’8-5’10
Q: How much does he weigh?
A: ~170-180 pounds.
Q: Has he always had a paunch?
A: No, he has been in great shape his whole life. The paunch is a recent middle-aged development.
Q: Is he a pedophile?
A: No.
Q: Is he a hebephile?
A: Doubt it.
Q: What is his Age of Attraction?
A: Probably normal, maximum attraction to mature females age 16+ like any normal man.
Q: What is his sexual orientation?
A: Heterosexual.
Q: Is he masculine, feminine, in between?
A: Typical very masculine man from the area. A bit of a badass, tough guy. Uses foul language and has a rough way of speaking.
Q: Psychiatric diagnosis?
A: Apparently sociopath, in my opinion.
Q: General vibe?
A: Looks normal to others, but I know sociopaths, so he would appear rather sneaky, devious, “unreadable”, slick, bad boy, naughty, playful, outlaw, gleam in his eye, rebellious. Appears to be hiding something or keeping some sort of a secret. General feeling of what you see is not what you get.
Q: Can he seem warm, friendly, etc?
A: Very much so. Chameleon. Very hard to figure out. Actor who sees life as a series of roles.
Q: Life theme?
A: You can’t win, they’ve got it in for me, life is a game, I’m fooling them ha ha, also redemption from previous failed life.
Q: Redemption meaning what?
A: He thinks he has turned his life around from a lifetime of mistakes and is now on the right track finally. However, his desires got the best of him.
Q: Verbal style?
A: Versatile, can seem sentimental, poetic and moving. Fools you into thinking he is a person who cares deeply about life’s small and kind wonders.
Q: Feeling towards children?
A: Loves them, strangely enough.
Q: Married or divorced?
A: Was married, hence the kids, now divorced.
Q: Easy or messy divorce?
A: Very messy and I do mean very messy. Same with the Evansdale killer.
Q: Child custody issues?
A: Major issues in this area, same as Evansdale killer.
Q: Altercations with ex-wife?
A: Yes, same as Evansdale killer.
Q: Relations with ex wife?
A: Extremely hostile, same as Evansdale killer.
Q: Ex wife fears him?
A: Unknown, quite probably.
Q: Any special preoccupation with young teenage girls?
A: Unknown, possible but probably not. Sees teenage girls and grown women as versions of a mature female. Old enough to bleed, old enough to breed, etc.
Q: Rage towards females?
A: Seems apparent with the crime, but is otherwise not obvious in his life.
Q: Motivation?
A: Same as Evansdale killer. Sociopath / sexual sadist / rape-murder / serial type.
Q: Serial killer?
A: Serial type, but unknown if he has other victims.
Q: Were these his first killings?
A: Unknown, no known other killings. Quite possibly first killings, as hard as that is to believe.
Q: Commuted how far to commit crime and return home?
A: 100-200 miles.
Q: Travel time commuting to commit crime and return?
A: 2-3 hours.
Q: Resides in which state?
A: An unknown state neighboring Indiana.
Q: Gang ties?
A: Possible from prison. Possible Aryan Brotherhood.
Q: Determined how?
A: Can’t say right now. Has to do with his hands.
Q: Tattoos?
A: Unknown, none obviously visible.
Q: In his 50’s, how did he negotiate that scary bridge?
A: Grew up in the area. Bridge area is like his backyard. Has probably traversed it many times. Also very fit from very active life despite bad knee.
Q: Physical condition?
A: Excellent for age due to active outdoors life.
Q: Capable of fooling people?
A: Very much so. Academy award actor. Life is a series of roles.
Q: Friends suspect him of bad things?
A: Do not think so. Has a decent circle of warm friends, tough, hard outdoors, badass men of about the same age who think he is completely on the up and up. He’s fooling them all. Chameleon.
Q: Sexual peculiarities noticeable to wives or girlfriends?
A: Unknown, may have hidden his sexual sadism.
Q: Why?
A: Very sneaky, devious, underhanded, conspiring and plotting fellow. Most actions are well plotted and planned. Little spontaneity other than rages.
Q: Violent temper?
A: Regularly and very much so, generally verbal, sometimes threats.
Q: Displays hostility to women?
A: Sometimes verbally, but typical for tough guy, hard man, roughneck, ex-con working class outdoors redneck type.
Q: Jokes about rape or threats of rape towards women?
A: Sometimes, veiled, but common for his type.
Q: Racist? White Supremacist?
A: No. Brotherhood ties but rarely if ever makes racial remarks. Probably joined Brotherhood for self protection in prison. Often comes across as anti-racist, even a coastal liberal variety.
Q: Politics?
A: Quite liberal. Sort of an aging hippie type, unusual for Indiana.
Q: Drug user?
A: Marijuana, yes. Enjoys it a lot.
Q: Drinker?
A: Former very serious problem, present status unknown. May be sober now.
Q: Smoker?
A: Yes, smokes cigarettes.
Q: Smoked during crime?
A: I believe so.
Q: How do we know?
A: Cigarette found at scene. Possibly his.
Q: Can comments, remarks and speech be trusted?
A: Absolutely not. Pathological liar. Truth is mixed in with lies and fabrications to the point where he believes his own lies and even gets caught in them.
Q: Reaction if caught in a lie?
A: Temper, rage, ranting, veiled threats via angry language.
Q: Appears normal, even like a nice guy or regular guy?
A: Very much so.
Q: Good friend.
A: Can certainly play the role very well. Charming and disarming. The more you get to know him, the more harmless you think he is.
Q: Takes responsibility for actions?
A: No, blames others for everything. When at fault, blames others. Attacks other and then claims to be acting in self defense.
Q: Behavior in court?
A: Shameless, pathological, defensive lying, blaming others.
Q: Other defenses?
A: Excellent at distracting people and directing attention away from what is important. Red herrings, irrelevancies, minor details, fussing, wrong turns, wrong directions.
Q: Conversational defense?
A: Denial, rage, rants, redirection especially.
Q: Liberty’s phone recovered by police?
A: I do not think so.
Q: Video and audio how?
A: From cloud.
Q: Disposition of phone?
A: Found on Libby, possibly resulting in fatal rage attack double garroting of her that nearly decapitated her.
Q: Disposition of phone?
A: Retained by killer, destroyed and disposed of.
Q: Location of phone.
A: Never left Delphi. Disposed in Delphi.
Q: Found by LE?
A: Extremely doubtful.
Q: Recoverable by LE?
A: Quite probably.
Q: Location of phone?
A: Near crime scene, but buried deep.
Q: How deep?
A: 10-20 feet plus.
Q: Recovery feasibility?
A: Difficult but quite possible with sufficient resources.
Q: Data available on phone?
A: All data destroyed.
Q: Condition of phone?
A: Destroyed, unusable but possibly intact. It’s just buried deep is all.
Q: Killers prints or DNA on phone?
A: No way, not possible.
Q: Recovery of phone would assist case?
A: Possibly dramatically.
Q: How was knowledge of phone story obtained?
A: No comment.
Q: Theory reported to LE?
A: Absolutely.
Q: Girls’ bodies posed in odd manner?
A: Apparently.
Q: Why?
A: Posing had occult or Satanic overtones.
Q: Was this an occult or Satanic crime?
A: Unknown, but if it was not, it may have been made to look like one. Killer specializes in wrong way streets, red herrings, misdirection and redirection.
Q: Satanic or occult theory status?
A: Weak.
Q: Why?
A: Killer has no known occult or Satanic interests. He may have such, but it is not obvious and if he does, he apparently hides it well as he does with so many things.
Q: Killer IQ?
A: Average.
Q: Street smarts, etc.
A: Killer is smart like a fox. In terms of sheer animal, devious and utterly cunning smarts, he is brilliant, has a genius IQ in this type of intelligence.
Q: Education level?
A: Low.
Q: Killer is storyteller, raconteur?
A: Very much so.
Q: Entertaining in this role?
A: Turns off some, but extremely entertaining to others.
Q: Philosophical outlook?
A: Cynical, humans are lousy animals driven by low, base interests, corrupt at their core.
Q: Killer’s attitude towards this?
A: Acts offended. Plays role of offended good citizen outraged by sleazy corruption.
Q: LE communicated with killer during course of investigation so far?
A: Absolutely and documented.
Q: LE suspicious of killer as a result of conversations between LE and killer?
A: Doubtful, he may have fooled them too. He fools so many people. He is an expert at fooling people.
Q: LE has DNA from crime?
A: Unknown, maybe.
Q: Status of DNA, if so?
A: No match in databases.
Q: Killer’s DNA is in databases?
A: Doubt it. Otherwise there would be a match.
Q: Kill method of both girls?
A: Garroting, probably double garroting.
Q: Garroting material used?
A: I have a good guess, but I will not say. Not a typical garroting item but would work very well.
Q: Baling wire from Mears barn used to garrot?
A: I do not think so, though it was available.
Q: Why garroting?
A: Kill method apparently intended from the start. Carried garroting supplies.
Q: Intended to only rape, hurt, frighten girls and leave?
A: No.
Q: Killed because scene got out of hand and panicked?
A: No, murder intended from the very start.
Q: Why did girls’ throats seem cut?
A: Garroting strangles you and cuts your throat.
Q: Difference between garroting and knife cut of neck?
A: Knife cuts from the front and can decapitate. Garroting cuts all the way around but seldom decapitates because garroting material is not as sharp as a knife to cut through back of neck.
Q: Condition of girls’ fingernails?
A: Blood and dirt under Liberty’s nails. Dirt under Abbie’s nails. Abbie’s nails badly torn up.
Q: Certainty of garroting used?
A: High, confirmed by several sources close to family.
Q: Unwanted pregnancy, botched abortion theory of motive?
A: This was a great theory, the only one so far that even made since with good evidence to back it up via autopsy findings and method of attack, but the theory seems dead. This was not the motive for the killings.
Q: Abbie found with stake in her?
A: Appears so, very strong likelihood.
Q: Why?
A: Killer apparently discovered she was pregnant, girl was staked to kill the fetus. Best theory.
Q: How did he find or theorize she was pregnant?
A: Unknown.
Q: Abbie found pregnant on autopsy?
A: Strong rumor but highly disputed and white hot controversial.
Q: Abbie proven to be pregnant?
A: Not at all, but likely was.
Q: Why likely?
A: Abbie family member strongly implied she was pregnant and the killing involved an attempt to kill a fetus.
Q: Bridge Guy seen in Abbie photo on bridge?
A: Yes hiding behind a tree.
Q: Photo exists?
A: Yes, will be posted, but man outlined with software.
Q: Confidence that this is the Bridge Guy?
A: Very high, color of clothing on man behind tree is perfect match for color of clothing of man on bridge.
Q: Condition of girls’ bodies?
A: Abbie nude, Liberty topless.
Q: Girls clothes where?
A: In the creek to destroy DNA.
Q: Girls suffered?
A: Very much so, Abbie most of all. Liberty’s nightmare may have been mercifully shortened.
Q: Abbie alive when dumped?
A: Apparently.
Q: Time of death?
A: Maybe 9 AM 2-14, 30 minutes before search started. So sad.
Q: Abbie lingered after dumped?
A: Yes, up to 1.5-6.5 hours
Q: Why?
A: Who knows? She did not lose much blood for some reason.
Q: Abbie cause of death?
A: Exposure.
Q: Crime scene contaminated?
A: Dubious.
Q: Searcher touched bodies on discovery?
A: Highly dubious.
Q: Who found bodies?
A: Man and wife and another man.
Q: How known?
A: Documented from screenshots conversations with searchers who found the body.
Q: Screenshot available?
A: Yes, to be posted.
Q: Liberty’s family involved?
A: I say no.
Q: S and H families involved.
A: I say no.
Q: Ron Logan involved?
A: This is one of the stupidest episodes of this entire affair. Not as tragic as the girls, but nevertheless a tragedy. Punishments should fit crimes. Logan is a drunk and probation violator. He’s not killer. The whole idea is insane.
Q: Sexual activity by the girls involved?
A: Both girls may well have been sexually active. One certainly was. But this had nothing to do with a motive for the crime as was thought earlier. It may have been the impetus for an attack on Abbie though.
Q: If attempt to kill fetus theory correct, what motive?
A: Previous motive is trashed because suspects are all cleared. Motive was apparently simple cruelty. Killer somehow found she was pregnant and tried to kill fetus as part of general sexually sadistic crime.
Q: Killer’s attitude towards investigation?
A: Nervous, fearful of being caught but also sees the whole thing as a bit laughable game of cat and mouse. He’s getting a real kick out of it. This is just good times to him. He’s fooling them and hiding right under their noses, ha ha.
Q: LE stated killer may have given false tips. Accurate?
A: Could well be.
Q: Killer involved in the investigation?
A: Quite possibly.
Q: Why?
A: Can’t help himself. Loves the limelight, publicity hound, likes the idea that he is hiding right under their noses and getting away with it, this is hilarious.
Q: Significance of 13th for day of attack, day of bad luck of occult significance?
A: Unknown if any. May be random.
Q: Significance of Valentines Day for body dump day?
A: Unknown, may be random.
Q: Significance of dates adding up to 32, an occult number?
A: Unknown, may be random.
Q: Significance of Evansdale and Delphi dates being exact mirror images of each other?
A: Fascinating but may be random.
Q: Possible occult significance of killing Abbie Williams,
namesake of Salem Witch trials accuser?
A: Unknown, may be random or coincidental.
Q: Time of body dump?
A: 2:30 AM – 7:30 AM
Q: How girls taken to site?
A: Left Mears barn in vehicle, drove 25 yards to cemetery to southwest gate of cemetery, through unlocked gate of Ron Logan’s horse pasture, 10 feet to start of trail.
Q: Girls where in car?
A: No doubt in trunk.
Q: How girls taken to dump site?
A: Via trail. Dragged down a trail.
Q: How determined?
A: Searchers followed drag trail to bodies.
Q: One man dragged two girls?
A: Very dubious, especially with Libby at 200 pounds. Excellent reason for two killer theory.
Q: Killers’ actions after body dump?
A: Rapid departure from area in darkness and then 100-200 miles to home.
Q: Where were the girls taken after they were abducted?
A: To the Mears barn.
Q: At what time?
A: Probably 3 PM or so.
Q: Were Ron Logan and the Mears home?
A: Both were gone.
Q: Did the killer know this?
A: It seems like he must have.
Q: How did he know this?
A: No idea, but I believe that the killer was extremely familiar with the area, Logan, the Mears and their neighbors, having known and lived around them for a long time when he was younger. He was nearly in his own backyard.
Q: Did the killer know the weather in the area?
A: Yes.
Q: For how long?
A: For at least one week prior, he had been following Delphi weather.
Q: What happened when the car drove onto the Mears property by the barn?
A: It drove right into the barn.
Q: Can the barn fit a car?
A: Yes, and more than one, with much room to spare. The barn is massive, like a cavern.
Q: Couldn’t people see the car in the barn?
A: Although the barn is only a short ways off the road, from the road, you can barely see one foot inside the barn even in broad daylight. The thing is like a black hole.
Q: Couldn’t people see in the barn at night?
A: Not at all.
Q: Even if the killers had an artificial light source?
A: They still could not see in. First the entrance is blocked by the vehicle and anyway, with a low light, the barn is such a black hole that a small light source would probably not be detected from the round. You would just see pure black darkness at the entrance to the barn-cavern.
Q: How long were the girls kept in the barn?
A: Probably from 3 PM 2-13 to 3 AM 2-14, 12 long hours.
Q: Were they alive the whole time?
A: Abbie was, sadly, but Libby was killed earlier on on 2-13.
Q: Why was Libby killed earlier?
A: I think she gave him a great big fight and she was a handful.
Q: So what happened?
A: He flew into a rage at her resistance, grabbed his garroting material, and double garroted her.
Q: Abbie saw this?
A: As horrible as it sounds, yes. This is as bad as it gets.
Q: Why didn’t the girls make some noise?
A: Probably gagged.
Q: Is it true that Libby had 4-5 chances to escape?
A: Apparently, police say so.
Q: They know this how?
A: God knows.
Q: Why didn’t she flee?
A: The saddest part of all. She was so dedicated to her friend that she vowed to not leave her friend in this horrible state with this monster. She was going to stay with Abbie all the way through this mess. She could leave abandon her friend to this horror. In real life, they were inseparable.
Q: What happened in the barn?
A: Who knows? Girls were kept in there, tormented, tortured, probably cut with knives, Libby was garroted, and both girls were sexually mutilated.
Q: Sexually mutilated how?
A: God knows. But Abbie may have had a stick up her up vagina, as awful as it sounds.
Q: The killer speared Abbie in the stomach with a sharp stick?
A: Yes, like I said, as bad as it gets.
Q: How certain are you of this?
A: Very much so.
Q: How did he spear her, horizontally or vertically.
A: He drove the stake into her stomach or abdomen. If she was pregnant, this looks like an attempt to kill the fetus. If vertically, He straddled her and stood over her and shoved it in her from above, which would be hard to do. Or horizontally, he put the stick up her vagina and into her stomach that way, as awful as it sounds.
Q: Which would cause a quicker fatality?
A: Surely vertical.
Q: What evidence do we have for horizontal or vertical?
A: Only one rumor from one source, very recently. She said horizontally.
Q: How would the two methods of spearing differ?
A: Vertically would probably be a very quick death and would actually be more merciful, but it would be hard to drive that stake in. Horizontally, poor Abbie could have lingered for some time. She would have suffered much more with a horizontal attack. It would have been horrendous.
Q: Abbie survived the killer’s attacks?
A: Unbelievably, yes. She survived the double garroting, which was poorly done, whatever else was done and even the staking.
Q: When did he stake her?
A: I am thinking after he dumped them.
Q: Why?
A: God knows. Perhaps he discovered that she was still alive, and he went nuts and staked her to finish her off.
Q: How were girls placed?
A: They were posed in some odd position in what some say looked like a Satanic ritual. Also they were covered with leaves, but Abbie escaped from under leaves and unbelievably even managed to crawl away a ways.
Q: What was Abbie’s cause of death?
A: Exposure.
Q: How long did Abbie survive in the forest?
A: From 1.5 to 6.5 hours, incredibly enough.
Q: Why did she survive?
A: Amazingly, she did not lose much blood.
Q: What is the killer’s attitude to getting photographed and recorded?
A: A lot of panic, but also he thinks it is a game and a big joke.
Q: How is he dealing with his photo and audio being out there.
A: He has a plan, but I can’t talk about it right now.
Q: Does the killer seem like a suspicious person?
A: Absolutely not. Total chameleon.
Q: Will he be caught?
A: I believe so.
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